he doesn't have the opinions that steve jobs would have, you know, steve jobs would say something was--and he would curse about whatever it was. i think tim is a little bit-- >> gavin: and among them, you would never leave home without and it's your desert island piece. >> and he has moved forward with it. it's the months most amazeing device. do you have one. >> gavin: i don't have one. >> i'll sell you mine, for lots and lots of money. i carry mine with me all the time. >> gavin: isn't that the most stark and notable deviations from steve jobs in terms of leadership of cook, or was that a ruse of sorts when it was the notion of the indianapolis pad when in fact, it was in development when he was life. >> i think the different in the ipad mini and the ipad biggy it's great when you're home. and the mini is so you can take it out. steve jobs was sick the last couple of years of his life. he didn't go out and about. he didn't sit on the subway and things like that. for him it was at product that he needed but it's a product that everybody else needed. maybe that's something that we've